Awwww, poor Flight.  I just thought time served for his deceptions or just thrown out of police force.  And some redemption for helping to bring down Shine.  I never considered hanging.  Now I'm depressed.

I am only imaging the worst case scenarios to prepare myself if tears are going to be needed! I love Flight and need to emotionally and psychologically prepare myself for the worst ;)

I am of course hoping for a happy ending for Flight and a beautifully moving redemption scene where Reid forgives him everything :) That would be wonderful (and will also make me cry but those would be happy tears!).

Excitedly waiting for Dublin-based Damien tweets very soon!!!

thanks for the update Rosie!

Unless they film episodes out of order or scenes from same eps at different times, you may well be right....

Oooo....but isn't that just perfect timing for Damien to join them for block 2!!

Thanks for the info rosie.....

-- Edited by fifi on Thursday 3rd of July 2014 11:35:16 PM

Still no confirmation either way, sorry folks!

However... it occurred to me that a solution for H-Division may be to keep Flight close, but not part of the division, by making him an informer! living back on the streets, with invisible support and protection from Reid and co... he has proven his skills in deception.. he could betheir permanently undercover spy! sorry if someone suggested this idea for FLight already!

That's actually very good idea domino!

There could be at least one ep where they could meet Flight after he served some time in jail.

Reid could find him in some pub, after losing his job he has become man he feared an touched the alcohol. Reid could feel pity and give him another chance and offer him job as a spy. Or Flight could come offer his help if he has information of offer himself as a spy. The possibilities are unlimited!

Lets hope, Damien got lot of attention when he was Albert Flight in this show, I'm sure everyone knows it and it and to be honest it could be quite mad to let him out of new series, unless Damien refused for the job.

I can't believe that they haven't thought about Flight. I bet after they started to write new episodes they did go trough all characters and made up story for them. They have to give so many closures cause last ep left everything open. They had to think all the relationship, what happened after fight, who survived who died after all these years, did Reid start new family, what about Rosie... I'm sure they think about something to say about Flight too.

They would definitely have created a story arc for each character; I can't believe the writers even intended to leave Flight's story just hanging at the end of the s2 finale, particularly as they wouldn't have known it was going to be cancelled.

Domino, so much of what we see of Flight's behaviour doesn't seem to fit with what we think we know of Flight's past. He seems naive and as you say not at all streetwise, which is difficult to reconcile with his criminal past. He does seem to have been sheltered/protected or it is a very convincing act to get them to trust him. Letting himself get beaten up is quite some commitment to his act if so! I am hoping his true past is something that will be explored in s3 as I think there is still much more to discover about Flight.

Yes, yes, yes to all of this! 

When we learned a little about Flight's background, I found his reaction to the doss house surprising too.  He says something like 'how can men live like this'...and seems genuinely shocked - you'd think that he would've had experience of such places.  And, as you say, this is not the only example of an apparent contradiction.  There is certainly a very odd mixture of innocence and deceit going on with Flight....

If we knew for certain that Joseph Mawle would be back, then I'd be pretty convinced that Flight would be too...I feel absolutely that Flight has to have a hand in Shine's downfall!  I'm still finding it hard to believe that they could end s2 the way they did - with Shine bloodied, but certainly not beaten.....still as Reid's nemisis - and not resolve that on screen (although I have to acknowledge that what the writers want is subject to the actors wanting to/being able to oblige).

I'm still liking my senario of Flight working for Susan, both with the common interest of wanting to bring down Shine (albeit tangentially in Susan's case) which ties in nicely with Flight working as an informant for Reid (Reid's very own Baker's Street boy!!).  I think that Shine's misdemeanors would need to be officially recognised...but proof of his crimes could only be obtained throught unofficial means.  It all works perfectly!

 

Just remembered I read an interview with Joseph Mawle not long after Ripper Street was cancelled where he suggested that he wanted to move on to something new. But that was months ago and anything could have happened since then.

I've always thought Evelyn's "you scare me" meant that she saw something dark in him. His expression just before she kisses him seems a little like he is afraid that she has caught him out. I completely agree that his talk with Evelyn about his lack of family/guidance is him letting his guard down and being more himself than we see before or after that. I always find what he says to her really moving and it would break my heart if he lying about that. It would be really cruel to manipulate Evelyn in this way by playing on her family situation and I don't think Flight is cruel. I think we are supposed to think what Flight had said about his past is true so that it helps to explain/mitigate what he does later.

He seems to have quite a history of lies and deceit, his first arrests on his record are for fraud/deception type crimes, before he had even met Shine. I've always wondered what the last arrest on his record is. You can see Wo.... and it is a few days after his arrest for illicit distillation. I can only assume it is for wounding? Does it refer to the people who went blind from the gin? Wounding suggests to me that he attacked someone with a knife - this seems a little out of character compared to his other crimes. Did he attack Shine and he then saw something in Flight.

Shine would have chosen the best man for the job when he wanted a spy in Leman St so Flight must have been experienced at deception. Shine would not have expected Flight to have such a crisis of conscience. I agree fifi that Flight's remorse is genuine. He is clearly distressed by what has happened, particularly Hinchcliffe and Merrick's death. Flight appears to have got away from Shine in his position in Bloomsbury so how does Shine persuade Flight to be his cuckoo in another man's nest?

Flight's past would make a great spin off! Perhaps the forumers should write it!

you mean his parental history is another deception?! noooooo! that speech before during and after the milk guzzling in the Flight and Evelyn scene in episode 4 is one of my faves of the series... I totally believed him.... but that makes for interesting thought...

fifi wrote:

 

I'm still liking my senario of Flight working for Susan, both with the common interest of wanting to bring down Shine (albeit tangentially in Susan's case) which ties in nicely with Flight working as an informant for Reid (Reid's very own Baker's Street boy!!).  I think that Shine's misdemeanors would need to be officially recognised...but proof of his crimes could only be obtained throught unofficial means.  It all works perfectly!

 

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