This is utter and sheer madness. I read late last night that it had been cancelled (Jerome Flynn mentioned it during a radio interview) and i can't get my head around it. It is on a different night, pitched against the ratings juggernaut that is 'I'm A Celebrity' and they act all surprised? are they really THAT stupid? If they had only waited til after New Year and showed it in it's original S1 Sunday night slot, then i bet we wouldn't be having this conversation. I wish BBC would relent, commission a third series, put it back in it's original timeslot and THEN if it struggles still, if it get cancelled then fair enough. This feels like deliberate sabotage and i am utterly furious at them for it.
I share the strength of feeling about this sad and unbelievable news.
The ratings are a result of poor scheduling and not a TRUE reflection of the potential of this one of a kind drama. OR of public opinion - which has not been taken into account! The best and most extraordinarily high quality period TV drama and the BBC are throwing it away? It is a jewel of a thing, unique and exceptional, and yet, lesser dramas who will not go up against 'I'm a celeb' will be left to continue?
Had the BBC given Ripper Street a fairer chance by actually PROMOTING it themselves rather than giving up after about the second episode..maybe then it would have stood better chance up against IAC.
The saddest thing about this for me is... the writers and creators and actors are only finding out now so they had no chance to write and ending for the show, the proper ending they could envisage if they had to do an ending at all, and the ending Ripper Street and we deserve(s).
NOOOOOOOO! I was just really staring to like it this season. They really need to give shows a little longer to get a foothold. Especially since it takes so long for the American audience to even get to see it. Most shows take two season to really hit their stride.
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I've signed two petitions now and have reblogged both on tumblr and retweeted like crazy. BBC siting ratings is an excuse in my opinion. They stopped promoting it and the ratings slipped. Self fulfilling prophecy. This show has a much larger audience that Being Human and the outrage in the media and social networks has been very clear. Let's hope we can make a difference this time. Regardless of Damien being in it, there really are very few quality programmes out there. The intensity and emotion, the thought provoking topics, the insistence on not compromising on the language and violence that depict a better more accurate picture of those times is to be applauded and I wouldn't be surprised at all if it wins awards. For BBC to cancel it is a travesty and I think a slip into more and more mindless programmes. I wont have anything to watch pretty soon!
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I'm a bit confused though. Two petitions is not a good idea as it'll split the wealth of feeling; I think we need to pick just one and stick with it...the one I signed, which I think is the one Domino has linked, is the bigger (it had 2000 sigs when I signed this morning) so that should be the one we should be promoting.
Oh absolutely that one has a better chance because it started earlier. But the other one is by Damian Barcroft. He's brought us some fabulous cast/crew interviews (albeit no DamiEn, except tangential references) I have to support his efforts as well. And is there really any harm in two petitions? I signed both, I'm not splitting anything, showing my views in both.
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There is if people don't know which to sign. Not everyone is as invested as we are in terms of news and things and people won't sign two; they'll think, well I've signed and that's it. Plus it gives a fractured response to the Beeb, esp if they only see the lower signed petition. It just feels like we need to be joined up if we want anything to happen, although I suspect nothing we do will change their mind, just not enough support generally...we'd need hundreds of thousands of signatories for an about turn unfortunately.
I'm sounding like the harbinger of doom there aren't I? I suppose I'm just trying to be realistic about this...
It would help if they saw ALL the tweets too. Not everyone tags BBCOne directly. Many just have the #RipperStreet tag or #saveripperstreet And of course not all those people necessarily know about the petition (s).
I try to be realistic, but my heart always has other ideas. At the very least it makes me feel better to try.
I agree the forum should just promote one. I just personally have been going everywhere, even commenting on some of the news articles. I also did the feedback email. Doesn't hurt. Makes me feel better than just fuming.
-- Edited by whimsyfox on Thursday 5th of December 2013 10:08:13 AM
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I agree with you kat, multiple petitions risk diluting the impact of the message, but it is an indicator of how strongly people feel about Ripper Street and that they are willing to take action to hav their opinions heard.
There is one other petition I would urge forumers to sign, from none other than Mr Barcroft who runs the fabulous H Division @RipperStreet twitter account. It is also worth reading what he has to say:
I agree with this because even a one off special would give the show a chance for a proper ending, which as I have said is possibly the things that saddens me the most.
Regardless yay!!! Let's hope these petitions help the bbc to see that he is a much loved show and to rethink its decision. By the way, the reasoning for the axing is total bullshit!
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I have to agree with PradaKat's opinion that to sway the BBC, there has to be hundreds upon thousands of signatures. Having been a veteran of the cancellation of Angel several years ago as well as Being Human earlier this year, unless there's a surge of support OR, miracles upon miracles, the BBC are genuinely surprised by the support for the show and relent, i fear nothing will work. I will however hold a little bit of hope for fan power.
I guess i'm more angry at the fact that the BBC schedulers messed this up, the show suffered and they just shrugged their shoulders and went 'oh well' I can imagine that every show in the 9pm slot at BBC1 the last couple of weeks have lost viewers. As i said before, commission another series, put it back in its original slot in it's original time frame and IF the ratings suffer still, then fair enough. I understand that it's expensive to make but wow, every moment watching it has been worth it. There is nothing like this on television, the use of authentic language is one of the reasons it stands out and it sickens me to my stomach that the BBC see the reality tv ratings of other channels and shows such as Ripper Street are sacrificed to this stupid panic. I know i don't run a television station and don't know the first thing about scheduling but for God's sake, someone must've had a clue somewhere when finding somewhere to slot Ripper Street. They are idiots if they didn't.
And i do believe if BBC America hadn't jumped the gun to announce an early December US broadacast date (and haven't they since postponed it?) then we would have been looking at a January/ February transmission date and probably wouldn't be having this conversation. But they did and i think BBC1 scrabbled around to look for a transmission date before the proposed US one and everything backfired. It's infuriating.
-- Edited by rubyrosettared on Thursday 5th of December 2013 02:37:23 PM
It's particularly annoying because, I believe, The Paradise has been recommissioned for a third series, which is in a Sunday slot and, don't get me wrong it's OK, but it's no Ripper Street. It's just a relaxing wash over you type of drama, which is just a little dull really...and, I bet, costs the same as RS, if not more because they have a lot of props and things - but fewer sets I suppose.
It is galling and I do think it should have had a third series at least and then be cancelled, but I think it's a victim of its own hype in some respects. So much press was around the "violence to women" angle, that some people elected not watch, even though shows like Silent Witness (Series 17 I believe now!) still get decent figures.
Indeed! we have a topic on that here, because the poll also included Being Human.
Thank you for bumping this topic up, it has reminded me to give an little update on the poll at the top of this thread, it now has over 33,000 signatures!! for those who have not signed it yet, click here!