ok i just saw your comment Brookesey (sorry I am a bit all over the place at the mo) and I am loving your point 5) which has set a whole new thought process in motion in my head...
I've watched this episode 8 times now and I still haven't decided what happened...I've heard many theories which sound right...I'm just excited that it was such an epic episode! Xx
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I loved the Hal / Tom fight scene, the choreography was stunning, and they both flew! tears were rolling when 'Bad Hal' said "he loved you both very much" and when in reply to Tom's "nah, he thought I was stupid" he said "quite the opposite".
Hal's accent was so totally posh english when he said "no it's fine, I should be able to remember all the gubbins"
"Leo, I've missed you" boohoo.....
Most of the comedy went to Hatch in this ep, but even amidst all that excrutiating tension near the end when Alex and Tom trapped Hal in the house, I did chortle when Hal picked his teeth and then says in his pompous high english, "what do you want Rook, we were rather in the middle of something",
I loved the Hal / Tom fight scene, the choreography was stunning, and they both flew! tears were rolling when 'Bad Hal' said "he loved you both very much" and when in reply to Tom's "nah, he thought I was stupid" he said "quite the opposite".
Hal's accent was so totally posh english when he said "no it's fine, I should be able to remember all the gubbins"
"Leo, I've missed you" boohoo.....
Most of the comedy went to Hatch in this ep, but even amidst all that excrutiating tension near the end when Alex and Tom trapped Hal in the house, I did chortle when Hal picked his teeth and then says in his pompous high english, "what do you want Rook, we were rather in the middle of something",
What surprised me was that Bad Hal would even bother to let Alex and Tom know how Good Hal felt about them. Bad Hal may have been winning, but not by much.
The general consensus is that they are in their alernate reality from the moment they all came to again in the studio.
It puzzled me for a bit how the devil escaped from Hatch's body before the ritual could be completed in the studio...Alex didn't drink the blood and the flask was broken but he escaped and then Rook shot Hatch. Apparently it's been explained as the devil knew he was under threat as he'd seen Rook with the weapon and made his escape and dove into the body of Rook, the only human present.
So when they conduct the ritual again at HH and are successful, the devil again realises the threat, tries to make his escape, realises they're all supernaturals apart from Rook and has to go into his body again because he can't get out of the room (the banging and crashing about in the room). In the meantime Rook tells Hal to kill him and he does. The trio are now human because in this reality, the devil has been defeated. But we don't realise (or at least I didnt' realise) it's an alternate reality til we see the origami wolf on the mantlepiece and the camera angle goes wonky. So i felt a bit...cheated but ultimately...they're alive in whatever reality so i'm okay with this ending. Though i must admit, i'm dying of curiosity about the extra scene on the DVD (which i have ordered!! woo hoo!)
Favourite scenes: 'Putting on the Ritz', is a work of sheer twisted absolute genius. It makes me chuckle every single time...possibly my favourite scene of the series.
The bar fight, Hal jumping onto the pool table and barking at Tom. I didn't catch that the first time so when i replayed it on iPlayer and heard it, i was shocked but loved it. So Lord Hal!
Hatch/The Devil's speech in the studio, especially that "well done" LT writes some absolutely epic monologues.
Hal's flashback scenes with Hatch and with Leo.
My heart was banging during that initial final scene in HH, when Alex keeps the door closed. The knock on the door made me just about have a panic attack because i was having shades of Wolf Shaped Bullet and at one point i was thinking if Tom wasn't able to stake Hal then Alex would, thank God i was wrong because what happened afterwards was so much better. I loved how Hal walked up to Alex, got in her face, pulled that expression and said 'awkward' before moving away.
Favourite scene was when Hal realises Alex is human and Tom has no wolf in him and he goes to the mirror. How he just doesn't look in the mirror at first, he's scared i think and then his expression when he sees his reflection. I was hyperventilating when i realised the implications and proper sobbing when he touched his own face. Damien could've played it in so many ways but he kept it simple and understated and i think that added to the dramatic effect.
And that tea cup Hal drinks from at the end? it's the same one he drinks from when he reads about the coroner and BTM in S4, the Kirby ep. I wonder whether that was 'Hal's cup'.
Will stop rambling now...
-- Edited by rubyrosettared on Thursday 14th of March 2013 02:49:24 PM
fifi, I agree. I could have sworn I posted earlier about the ritual not actually making sense. They did the ritual so they killed the devil. Why was he still around to possess Rook? Filler? Or it means something!
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I agree with Domino , when Hal said "Leo , iv missed you" My heart just crushed even more D: and before than when i realized he was still human. I though he was going to die! i was gonna start crying xD .. but no! i didn't !! and than when Leo appeard to be working with the Devil and trying to get Hal to stay quiet i was just angry :p ... but nope! cause "We're Human!" And Hal , Alex and Tom are all very happy bunnys ... for now ;)
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I loved the Hal / Tom fight scene, the choreography was stunning, and they both flew! tears were rolling when 'Bad Hal' said "he loved you both very much" and when in reply to Tom's "nah, he thought I was stupid" he said "quite the opposite".
Hal's accent was so totally posh english when he said "no it's fine, I should be able to remember all the gubbins"
"Leo, I've missed you" boohoo.....
Most of the comedy went to Hatch in this ep, but even amidst all that excrutiating tension near the end when Alex and Tom trapped Hal in the house, I did chortle when Hal picked his teeth and then says in his pompous high english, "what do you want Rook, we were rather in the middle of something",
What surprised me was that Bad Hal would even bother to let Alex and Tom know how Good Hal felt about them. Bad Hal may have been winning, but not by much.
yes, this! It was as if finally there is somehow a tiny blurring of the lines between bad and good Hal....and even though you can argue the reason bad Hal helped out with the whole save the world thing was self preservation, and preservation of his master race.. there was still a heroism in that to some degree.
By the way.... i cannot wait for a moment in real life I can use the phrase "No it's fine, I should be able to remember all the gubbins"
Or, fifi and UJ, it could be that the whole thing from the moment Hal was in the woods, is a dream within a dream....think back to the succubus dream within the dream... the elements..the accent...I keep seeing parallels ( actual playing devils advocate here (pun intended)....it is but a fleeting thought not a fully formed theory)
1) What does Hal say after the word keen when talking how other Hal felt about Alex. It sounds like mustard... lol. Is that a Brit thing? I thought I was hearing things.
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2)When Hal is talking to Tom after Alex locks the door. You don't have to ____ through this fight... loose quote. I tried turning up the sound and atill cannot make out the missing word in each. Any help is appreciated.
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-- Edited by Carmen Chiquita Miranda on Thursday 14th of March 2013 10:58:16 PM
So so sad and can't believe it's the end !!! Am I the only one who sees it as a happy ending, the ending our heroes deserve ? I thought the bit at the very end was just like a nice homage to all the characters!!! :D
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I totally latched on to that happy ending, HalGal. I acknowledged the kooky dutch angle on Hatch's origami and chose to ignore it because it was the end. Then I came here and was dragged into an alternate reality!
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I absolutley loved it. It doesn't matter if you think the ending is real or a dream it was a great ending. Loved Hal "Putting on the Ritz":D I shall really miss Being Human.
I've watched this episode 12 times now. Every time I watch it I love it a little bit more. It's sad, funny, happy, confusing, definitive and yet completely wide open. I love that there are different possibilities and different theories that will keep us guessing forever.
Toby really didn't let us down with the final episode. He literally gave me everything I could possibly have wanted from the final.
Life won't be the same without being human xx
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HalGal, I'm totally on the happy ending train. I know there are all sorts theories running around, but I'm just going with everyone is alive and together, happy endings all around.
I can definitely make myself believe that the origami wolf was just in the mix to let us know that the devil is still out there somewhere.
Well, according to my made up version of quantum physics, these alternate universes do sometimes bleed into each other. You know how you sometimes lose something, and you look and you look and you look, and suddenly there it is, and you could have sworn, in fact, you know damn well you did look in that place already and it definitely wasn't there but it suddenly is? That's because your pen or your keys slipped into another dimension for a spell, then slipped back. That's what Hatch's origami does. It moves around dimensions. And that, I'll have you know, is a scientific fact. Even if it is a made up one.
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Toby has achieved what he set out to with the ending ...and what a better way of handing it over to the fans than make it an ending that has so many different reactions and interpretations? we then become the co- creators! this for me is the definition of true art, that the 'meaning' is down to the audience. We are not patronized and given it on a plate...it is more abstract, really quite filmic and definitely very very clever.
Not only does it leave it to us to decide but the deeper you think into it the more the possibilities....the options are endless... what a way to make Being Human live forever.
I think it was you HalGal who said that you hoped Toby did not take that away from us on the extra scene on the dvd. I am hoping the same. As much as I am excited over more Being Human, the ending is so ...perfect that I want it to be just left there...radiating with infinite possibilities.
I guess. I know if I had not read anyone else's theories on it though I would have just seen it as a happy ending, but maybe with watching it lots more new endings would come to mind!!! Buffy I'm all for the romantic to but I think its more in keeping with being human and the style that it didn't go further !!!:D
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UJ, yes that was Damien's singing. He confirmed it to someone who met him recently (I forget who) and it was tweeted last night that he was taught the dance routine too. So it's all him.
UJ, yes that was Damien's singing. He confirmed it to someone who met him recently (I forget who) and it was tweeted last night that he was taught the dance routine too. So it's all him.
Wait... HE SINGS TOO?! *swoon*
Indeed! It is also confirmed on the BH Series 5 DVD interview with Polly Buckle
