I haven't ordered the DVD yet, I will when I get some more money. I've heard about what happens in the exclusive scene and I'm pretty pleased with what I've heard :)
I got my DVD this morning! Hooray! However, we are having people round for a meal tomorrow and my husband is going round like a headless chicken, wanting to wash the floor, dust and polish! All BEFORE vacuuming. So I said I would vacuum first and then we can dust. All this prevents me from watching any of the DVDs. I did say I would savour it and watch at my leisure. If I can hold out that long!
Here are a couple of photos I took when I went to Cardiff to see filming, The cast were inside the location filming 2 scenes. Natasha and Tom's date meal and the Exclusive scene. If you look outside the windows for both, you can see the rain tipping down. We were standing outside in that, waiting for them to come out! As you can see, with my photo with Damien, it was worth it!
My DVD finally arrived at 1.30pm this afternoon (as those of you who follow me on Twitter can testify, i wasn't amused) so i've only really had time to watch the extra scene, the deleted scenes and Damien's interview. Family committments have so far prevented me investigating further.
But...that extra scene was perfect, just right and yes, more definitive. And please, i'm going to be shallow (and i know you're all stunned speechless by that revelation) but how hot did Damien look in that suit...? (answer= very! )
I enjoyed the deleted scenes and yet again i wondered at the existence of Alan, just what was his purpose and how did he move the story along apart from being Crumb's side kick. Plus the actor was more wooden than a forest full of trees (sorry but he was)
My favourite deleted scene is the one alluded to...and two words...shouty Hal. And one part of it made me seriously squeak in an unashamedly fangirl way. Why wasn't it kept in???
I hope to find the time over the week to catch up with the rest of the extras, my kids are on their final week of school holiday so it may be difficult.
aaaah you're making me so curious!!
Anyway, I've seen the extra scene, and tbh it was exactly what I wanted.
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I didn't want them to actually have become human because I find it cheesy and idk, it just doesn't seem right for some reason (maybe one reason is that, like some people (on tumblr) have pointed out, the show was about the characters trying to be human despite their supernatural conditions and making them actually become human ignores all that). But one thing did confuse me, at the end Hal says to the question what they're going to do next: 'You know, the usual, trying to save the world' (or something like that, I've seen the scene only once) and some people thought he meant that they were going back to being supernaturals in the real world and trying to defeat the devil for real, but I don't see how they can come back? Idk, I think that they're trapped in the dream world because it isn't a 'dream' world in the way that they can wake up from it. Anyway, I have to wait to see the deleted scenes until someone puts them on youtube because I really don't see how I can get the dvd here in the Netherlands... The only possibility is that I order it from Amazon and I'm really not comfortable with that...
Lisa, I agree with everything you said here - including Damien looking hot in that suit. He got to keep that, by the way. he told me & Brookesey. I will be even more shallow and say that the reason that I don't like them being human is that Alex now has Hal on equal terms and I am sooo jealous of her.
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wahh! double take on your avatars deb and deadpool!
the exclusive scene certainly confirmed what many of us suspected in the end, so it has removed that ambiguity which gave people options...but it has also opened something right up again, after all, being 'human' was an end of sorts for our supernatural trio, and now?
pearl it sounds like you have a Hal all of your own, marigolds?
Here are a couple of photos I took when I went to Cardiff to see filming, The cast were inside the location filming 2 scenes. Natasha and Tom's date meal and the Exclusive scene. If you look outside the windows for both, you can see the rain tipping down. We were standing outside in that, waiting for them to come out! As you can see, with my photo with Damien, it was worth it!
So deeply special that you can share these now Laura! having to hold on to them for so long must be a mixed bag, awesome having your own personal secret but a bummer that you couldn't share them for spoilers! I remember when you asked me to pixelate Hal's costume so you could post it before, but here it is in all it's contextual glory!
thank you for sharing. Amaaaazing that you were there for filming such a crucial scene...did you know what was going on or have you been guessing all this time?
pearl it sounds like you have a Hal all of your own, marigolds?
Not really! He does, however, clean the windows and the bathroom occasionally.
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Damien's suit is lovely, as are the contents! I liked the way the camera angle changed at the end of the clip so that they looked like they do on the posters and DVD box.
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Wow awesome behind scene pics Laura !!! did you know it was the exclusive scene they were filming ? Thanks for sharing !!! domino I'd not thought of that way of looking at it I was dreading this exclusive scene and was expecting to be traumatised by it :( but although it's not the end for them I originly wanted now I realised in actual fact IT IS !!! It was quite humorous the final line !!!:D xxx
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HalGirl and Domino. We thought it was going to be a scene for the last episode (think either one of the crew told us or we saw it on a call sheet). When I saw that Kate wasn't in her ghost costume and Michael was dressed up in a tuxedo (and looked lovely), I guessed that it would be one of the very last scenes, so I wasn't surprised when she became human in episode 6 (but was not expecting the other 2 to become human too). We'd seen Michael go in earlier as he was filming his date scene with Natasha and we laughed when we saw what he was wearing as it was his "Cutler" date outfit. But when we saw him leave later, Michael was very coy. He came out and did a twirl and said "What do you think?" Bet you'd never think Tom would wear these. How do I look?" We oohed and said "Sexy!" and stuff like that. But when I asked to take a photo, he said, "I'd love to, but I've got to say no. I can't say why". I was really surprised that I didn't see this scene, and asked Toby & Damien about it in the Royal Court Theatre and they told me it was going to be on the DVD.
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true HalGal, in true Being Human style the tone was both humourous and tragic. all 3 characters had humourous lines, Hal's final one brought a wry smile
Oh wow, so all along you knew something like this was coming! It sounds like an exciting day to watch filming!
I am not surprised they refused photos for this scene, understandable isn't it, really glad that there were no spoilers, well done to you and others who saw the filming of this scene for not spoilering it for the rest of us
Did you see Damien on that day too? Just an idea Laura, if you are up for it, I (and I am sure others) would love to hear more about that day on filming....how would you feel about doing a little write up on it, when everyone has seen the scene?
Thanks Laura - I love reading these stories. It must be fantastic to actually get to see what was filmed after such tantalizing glimpses.
I was nervous about watching the exclusive scene too. As well as how it might affect my view of the ending, I wasn't sure how I would feel about seeing the last bit of Being Human. But it was everything that I hoped for......definately not a ending. I really, really wanted to be left with the hope that BH could return one day and am more then happy that even if Hal, Tom and Alex can't come back, then the story could continue with a different cast. It didn't make me feel sad all over again, it made me feel strangely up-beat. And it was lovely to see them all sitting having dinner together - one of those brief glimpses of 'normality' in the midst of the madness which has always made those moments so special.
It also restored my faith in Hal! During this series I've become convinced that Hal really cannot be trusted and that everything he says is a lie, so I'm glad that he didn't know what had happened. Couldn't help laughing at the fact that even in a perfect dream world it was still throwing it down with rain in Wales!
I've watched all the extra scenes except for the ending one - which I'll watch after I've rewatched the rest of the series - but I can understand why all the deleted ones went really; the only one that would have possibly helped continuity was the one with Crumb and Alan...and who wouldn't have wanted to have seen that scene anyway with all that pseudo Bad Hal!
I tried to use the spoilers tag but I didn't trust it, so, STOP READING! JUMP THIS POST! YOU'RE IN A THREAD ENTITLED 'SPOILERS! THEY'RE FRICKIN SPOILERS IN THIS THREAD OKAY!' So, if you insist on reading my post, please feel free to blame yourself.
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Well, I've had a lovely morning and afternoon with crumpets and Being Human. (Okay, that wasn't top secret information).
Strangest thing. While re-watching Hal's 'multiple personality' moment, it suddenly occurred to me that he was acting, pretending. And then I watched the 'I'm Lord Henry Yorke and you will obey me!' They really should have kept that scene, since, you know, it explains wtf happened there. Another scene I wish they'd kept in was the one they call an 'extra' scene instead of putting it under 'deleted' and that was Rook letting Tom close Tasha's eyes. Rook didn't/couldn't do it. Would have been a nice touch.
I do think Rook gets a rough deal. There's a few references to him caring about his career, his pension. Well, he could have had it all if he'd agreed to the Chinese offer. Instead he refused to allow them to make money off monsters. He's done nothing but sacrifice (including others, true) and all he gets in return is possessed by the Devil. The Devil understood him, knowing he'd sacrifice himself in the 'fantasy' defeat.
I preferred Alan in the deleted scenes. He came alive a bit more. I didn't think much of the actor. And Crumb came across a lot smoother too, watching it all together. I also think watching it on a bigger screen suited Colin's big performance more!
Oh yeah, that other scene. Well, it's just another open ending, innit. Now that they know they're living in a dreamworld, sure, they can break out, of course they can.
Hearing Toby talk about how everyone was relieved that he could do that acting stuff, like remembering his lines and not staring into the camera was a favourite moment, along with the wonder of Tom and Hal's differing approaches to 'learning to dance', and 'pamplemouse'. Pamplemousse will always be pamplemousse and Damien's dulcet tones will always be the sugar that pamplemousse always needs.
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UJ - I read someone suggest that Hal's 'multiple personality' episode was faked, and I just couldn't see it (even though it didn't seem to make sense anyway). But I agree - this deleted scene makes that seem more likely. In fact this scene and the following one with Hal and Alex have made me start to re-evaluate a few things from this series.
Sometimes I wonder if I'd like to see deleted scenes inserted back within the show on a dvd, as an extra, to see how it could have been if not for time.
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Omg!!! The thought never entered my mind UJ about him pretending!!! Why would he though in that scene in the cellar? I have a question about the big deleted scene. Did Hal actually drink from the cup or was that pretending to? Ok 2 questions!!! Where would that big deleted scene go in the DVD ? Just after Crumb & Alan got there but before they got locked in the cellar I guess. Answer your own question Ciara !!! :D I love Alan and crumb more after their deleted scenes and wish they'd been kept in !!!
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like a director's cut UJ? Agree... wonder at what stage those scenes were dropped, not entirely sure how closely the directors are involved with post production, or if it is down to an editing /marketing team. But, the scenes were obviously written and I would love to see the original vision as intended by the script.
Good questions HalGal! I am bit unsure about giving my opinion just now so it doesn't ruin anything for others...but, in the deleted scene we did get a close up of the broken cup on the floor and it wasn't empty...and in my opinion there was a difference between the 2 scenes in question, the deleted scene was shouty but not at all a all consuming for Hal as the cellar scene, plus in the latter he was genuinely out of it when Alex burst in...
like a director's cut UJ? Agree... wonder at what stage those scenes were dropped, not entirely sure how closely the directors are involved with post production, or if it is down to an editing /marketing team. But, the scenes were obviously written and I would love to see the original vision as intended by the script.
Good questions HalGal! I am bit unsure about giving my opinion just now so it doesn't ruin anything for others...but, in the deleted scene we did get a close up of the broken cup on the floor and it wasn't empty...and in my opinion there was a difference between the 2 scenes in question, the deleted scene was shouty but not at all a all consuming for Hal as the cellar scene, plus in the latter he was genuinely out of it when Alex burst in...
Generally, it tends to be a combination of the Director, Writer or Senior Producer who'll make the final post decisions. All the rushes of each scene will be edited down, then they'll fine cut it to make it fit the timeslot (approx 58 mins for an hour-long BBC programme). Anyone with 'power' will view the offline version and make changes - I've seen shows go to and fro for weeks at this stage if Execs argue over stuff! I think as Hal's eyes don't turn black - he does the blinky thing that would make me believe that's what would happen - it was something cut between the rough cut and fine cut stage, rather than right at the end...
PradaKat - thanks for that. It's great to get a bit of insight into how these things work.
To be honest I've been thinking myself round in circles about the cellar scene. Much as I love that scene it never quite made sense to me and so I might just be trying to find explanations. And I have to admit that if the deleted scene was that important then it's unlikely to have been deleted! On the other hand - it does explain quite a lot to me..... I probably just need to stop obsessing over it! Although there are other aspects to this scene too - like the fact that Crumb and Alan didn't really sign up to go clean..... not to mention Alex. A chance to see how they all would've fitted together would be fantastic.
PradaKat - thanks for that. It's great to get a bit of insight into how these things work.
To be honest I've been thinking myself round in circles about the cellar scene. Much as I love that scene it never quite made sense to me and so I might just be trying to find explanations. And I have to admit that if the deleted scene was that important then it's unlikely to have been deleted! On the other hand - it does explain quite a lot to me..... I probably just need to stop obsessing over it! Although there are other aspects to this scene too - like the fact that Crumb and Alan didn't really sign up to go clean..... not to mention Alex. A chance to see how they all would've fitted together would be fantastic.
No probs.
I actually thought, after watching that scene - and, actually, after watching that whole episode - that there was the potential to expand Crumb and Alan's part, and how the housemates dealt with them, along with more from Bobby. That could have been two episodes rather than one...
The only reason it occurred he might be pretending is because I was still trying to make sense of this sudden multiple personality aspect of vampirism! I'd been trying to fanwank something for it and I guess my brain was still searching.
I'm assuming deleted scenes mainly get cut for time, but sometimes they're just repetitive and there are even times when they give a bit of a different slant to things, and it looks like the scene got dropped because the show runners decided at the last minute to go in a different direction and put the kibosh on just in the nick of time! (Wish I could remember which show had such a deleted scene but I'm sure I've seen something that looked like that.)
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The first time i watched the chair scene where 'Lord Harry' emerged briefly, i had the same thought, that he was faking but thinking about it, i didn't think that he was. He was so horrified by it, he asked Crumb if 'he' had appeared. I think since his first 'slip' with drinking blood back in series 4, he's been aware that the current cycle was coming to an end. Look at the expression on his face when he's sitting on the bed after he killed Larry, he seemed almost accepting of it, and he would be, after all he's done this possibly all of his vampire life. He knew he was coming through and perhaps he thought he could 'beat' this cycle or at least try and suppress it but given what Crumb did to him, being knocked out and tied to that chair in the cellar, under those circumstances it would make sense to me for Lord Harry to erupt brutally through. It would seem that Hal keeps the Lord Harry and the Hal parts of his personality very separate. A loss of control could make that bad side come through the way he did in the episode. He looked absolutely terrified when he 'came to' and realised what had happened, i doubt he would have if he'd been faking it.
Thank you for that insight into post production in tv PradaKat!
I have always felt that from the creative process point of view it must be frustrating for anything to end up on the cutting room floor..but I guess the other side is it is an opportunity to sculpt the final product...and until something is actually created it must be very hard to make that assessment.
But I still wish that scene had been left in!!
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New favourite quote: "You have quite literally unleashed the beast, I am Lord Henry Yorke and you will obey me!"
I am going to re watch right now to see the blinky thing again..you mean Hal put that on to frighten Crumb and Alan even more? oooerrr!
Yes...too much material to fit in..... 8 episodes would have solved that problem!
By the way, the deleted scene above mentioned leaves me wondering again about Hal's history on lots of levels...
