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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 1 | SUNDAY 21 SEPTEMBER 2014

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yeah.  just have to get in a thud in there for wall leaning Jack...



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Scenes 8 - 16 (15 mins)

 

Scene 8 ( 06.26 - 06.46 )

Charlie informs Jack that Sadie Burns has arrived (Saul's appropriate adult).  Jack has found out that uniformed officers were called to Saul's hostel 3 months previously when he became violent.

JW: Therefore I think it's possible that Saul has attacked Jonathan Moxton, particularly if he's off the medication.

CS: You sound like you've made up your mind about that.

JW: No, paranoid schizophrenics are capable of anything.

(shots of Jonathan Moxton in hospital bed and photos on the crime board)

 

Scene 9 ( 06.47 - 08.24 )

Jack and Charlie interview Saul with Sadie Burns present.

 suspects2ep1-24.jpg

 

Jack questions Saul's version of events when he omits removing the underwear from Jonathan's mouth to perform resuscitation. Charlie asks Saul about going across to the hostel to call the police then returning to the scene.

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Scene 10 ( 08.25 - 08.44 )

In the main office, Jack tells Charlie that the hospital reports Jonathan received "blunt trauma injuries from a rounded instrument" and that the SOCOs (scene of crime officers) did not find anything like that at the scene. Jack suggests that it is possible when Saul went across to the hostel as he said he did, he stashed it in his room.

 

Scene 11 ( 08.45  - 09.50 )

Jack and Charlie search Saul's room at the hostel, with Saul and Sadie present. Jack finds a medication packet with only one strip left out of 3 months worth of meds. Jack asks Saul if he has stopped taking his meds and if he is selling them, which Saul denies.

suspects2ep1-14.jpg

 

 

When Charlie finds a pool ball covered in blood and asks Saul what it is, he becomes distressed and tries to attack her. Jack and a uniformed officer restrain him, while Jack arrests him.

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Scene 12  ( 09.51 - 11.24 )

In interview room 1, Jack interviews Saul, with Sadie present. When questioned about the pool ball, Saul says that it is an anxiety tool / stress ball and it was covered in blood because he picked it up when he had blood on his hands. Jack asks him to take him through the timeline of events when he found Jonathan again, and this time Saul mentions seeing a man running from the scene. Jack asks why he did not mention it before and Saul replies that he did. Jack remains calm but responds that he definitely did not mention it before an asks what the man looked like, Saul replies that he doesn't know.

 

Scene 13 ( 11.25  - 11.56 )

Charlie and Jack discuss Saul at the crime board. Charlie points out that the crime itself took time and planning and that doesn't seem like something someone as unstable as Saul would do. Jack points out that with his condition Saul has delusions and hallucinations and if he stopped taking his meds "It's a free for all, all bets are off."

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Scene 14 ( 11.57 -  12.59 )

Back in the interview room, Jack show Saul footage of the crime scene, to see if it jogs his memory. Saul remembers that when he was there he heard something, like someone kicking something over. "Someone was in there, And I swear to god, that's just popped in my head right now."

 

Scene 15 ( 13.00  - 13.14 )

Jack talks to Martha in her office.

JW: Paranoid schizophrenics, symptom number one is hearing voices. He's agitated..his story keeps changing."

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Scene 16 ( 13.15 - 13.50 )

Back in the interview Saul tells Jack he did sell his medication to someone to get some money, but now he doesn't "feel so good." Jack goes to get him some water while Saul becomes more distressed and appears to be talking back to voices he is hearing.

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I think Charlie wants to prove she can deal with anything



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(I've had the same problem as Jane a couple of times....I hit the reply key and nothing happens. If I keep trying it posts eventually after a few attempts, though)

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Well, I was assuming it was personal cause in the episode info they said ".. And why is Jack so rattled by this case?" and I thought it must be personal. Why else be rattled? He sees lots of horrible things every day, but this one really gets him.

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I can't remember what scene it is but at one point Charlie tells Jack it isn't like him to jump to conclusions and latch on to one person as the perp.  But it seems to me that it totally is is style.



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I felt jack's interview style had matured a bit in these scenes - he was also subtly angling for something from Saul, in a far less confrontational way

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Saul hadn't left out that he'd removed something from Johnathan Moxton's mouth to perform CPR.  He just didn't know they were red knickers.  Right at that moment, I ruled out Saul...



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Yes Jack is often very agressive in his interview style. He is taking consideration of Saul's illness

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hi everyone! we're discussing scenes 8 - 16! topic or naughtycorner



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Random Jane wrote:

I can't remember what scene it is but at one point Charlie tells Jack it isn't like him to jump to conclusions and latch on to one person as the perp.  But it seems to me that it totally is is style.


 I agree.  I think in every episode he did just that.  Charlie's comment didn't make sense to me.



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Scene 11 made me jump and I noticed that my mouth was hanging open quite a while after that scene. And I was leaning more closer to tv. This was first time when officers in this show faces violent, they have been arresting people but this never happened. I pitied Saul a bit, I think Jack was being too hard on him...

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Considering that Jack thought Saul was guilty from the start he was always very professional in interviews with him......

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jack was lightning fast in finding the empty med packet in Saul's room. And it turned out he was right to protect Charlie because of how Saul almost jumped on her when she found the pool ball covered in blood.

Agree whimsy, I ruled out Saul too, but the plot was cleverly leading back to him all the time - like the blood covered pool ball

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I think he understood taht he had to be fifi considerint Saul's delicate mental state.



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I agree that Jack's interview of Saul was quite "gentle" in comparison to some of his past (and future) interviews. 



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Jack seems to be exhibiting experience with schizophrenic people here, in the way he deals with Saul despite thinking he is guilty. It would be too obvious to assume it is the mentally ill person who is guilty



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slightly off topic (sorry!) but your screencaps are hopelessly distracting, domino!

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Brilliant scene Jozie ! I was adrenalized too!

Amazing how much Suspects packs in to scenes just a few seconds long without it feeling staged - testament to the the whole team, writers, actors

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The interview was gentle, but in the office he was too hard on him. Like he had two sides of himself, professional one who do what he has to do and right when door closes he is all like "Well he sick so he must be quilty" and I thought that was bit too harsh. Of course, later I learned why he was all like that.. 



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Sorry. Guys. I give up.  I can't get my comments to post so I can't keep up. It's very irritating. cry

 



-- Edited by Random Jane on Sunday 21st of September 2014 09:13:40 PM

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Rosie, YES! His precognition seemed more from experience than JUST his famous gut instinct on this occasion. Also, his gentleness in interviews was due to knowing how to handle Saul's condition?

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It does pack it in!  I think they've done an amazing job of condensing things down to just enough information in each scene to reveal another piece of the puzzle.



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(Jane - oh no! can you try another browser? i suggest log out, clear cache and cookies, log in again)

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I'll try that Domino.  I've tried Chrome & Explorer and they are bothing doing the same thing.  I've tried loging out and loging back in.  I'll clear out my cookies and try one more time before I throw in the towel. Tahnks.



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