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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 3 | SUNDAY 19 OCTOBER 2014

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Edward Shaffer. You smarmy man.

Interesting, I thought Jack was on to him from the start, in scene 7, just that look...

but in scene 8 he tells Martha that Edward was not involved.. just a reluctant camera man

and fifi.... thud

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Jack is more careful with children it seems.  Though he never lets it keep him from following the trail. 



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The Irish Dancing.  LOL  Sometimes I don't know if Jack is joking or serious.  



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Yes Whimsy, Jack's empathy here took me a little by surprise

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Irish dancing.. These are the moments when I wonder is this true? Cause all the actors "slip" true facts in the show... It seems hilarious (Charlie was laughing too).
Liked the scene 8, taking control the room again and only after the episode is trough you woke up on your trance and realize it wasn't real and start to admire all the little details in this show that makes you forget reality. Just doing simple normal things people do, does that. But he didn't enjoy his pose he had while enjoying his cuppa, you can see it when he stands up :D

Plot thickens, for me everything seemed bit confusing. And I have got little bit spoilers while I visited the set which made only more confused about everything.

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I thought he was unsure about Shaffer in sc7 as well, domino. But then he seems to tell Martha that Shaffer isn't involved...


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Jozie I get a thrill when i see the finished product after seeing the set!

I wondered about the Irish dancing for Damien too!

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If i could, I would send that cameraman (or lady) some sort of award or flowers. Loved all these cool angles they filmed...

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yeah.. odd that fifi!
but by scene 12, when it has been revealed that Rose's attack happened at the dance competition...he is well on Edward's case!

whimsy, I agree with your comment on Jack's approach with Kelly in that scene.

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I think Jack senses something is off with Shafer but he doesn't yet have proof - also unlike Jack but is setting things up for later

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well we sent them biscuits instead jozie

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I don't want to confuse scenes, as I said I didn't get a chance for the re-watch, but I felt that in scene 7 Jack went in almost making himself not be suspicious.  If that makes any sense?  As you said domino, something about his look, his body language.  He seemed to be onto him right away, but told Martha in essence that he wasn't.  I felt this might have been fallout from the previous case, where he'd immediately latched onto their first suspect Saul but his instinct had proven wrong.  This time it felt Jack was holding himself back (at this point) not to jump to conclusions even though his gut instinct said Shaffer.  



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Well yes :))

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I agree with you Whimsy.  



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When Shaffer says 'that could've been me lying in the hospital' and Jack says '....yeah...' Love that! I agree domino - at that point you get the impression that Jack REALLY doesn't like Shaffer....

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whimsyfox wrote:

I don't want to confuse scenes, as I said I didn't get a chance for the re-watch, but I felt that in scene 7 Jack went in almost making himself not be suspicious.  If that makes any sense?  As you said domino, something about his look, his body language.  He seemed to be onto him right away, but told Martha in essence that he wasn't.  I felt this might have been fallout from the previous case, where he'd immediately latched onto their first suspect Saul but his instinct had proven wrong.  This time it felt Jack was holding himself back (at this point) not to jump to conclusions even though his gut instinct said Shaffer.  


 Agree with you Whimsy, he's more careful in this case, even his gut feeling is striking him hard to go on. Maybe that is the reason he will lost his professional way in the end?



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Props to Frieda Thiel, such an incredible performance as Rose... another great character here, they began to judge her at the beginning, through her drug use and history... but she was the victim in the end

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Damien Irish dancing.  Now there's a thought... 



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Agree - Frieda Thiel was brilliant...

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I loved Frieda too, gave her bit praise about it in twitter. I was stunned. Great performance.

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think that is in the next scenes fifi!

I didnt sense that whimsy, Jack seemed quite flippant in the staff room when he dismissed Edward in scene 8, but now you have mentioned I will re watch with new eyes...

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ok last thoughts? 1 min left on these scenes!

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agree.  Frieda Thiel gave a heartbreaking performance.  She and Dominic Power have been my favorite guest actors so far.



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fifi wrote:

When Shaffer says 'that could've been me lying in the hospital' and Jack says '....yeah...' Love that! I agree domino - at that point you get the impression that Jack REALLY doesn't like Shaffer....


 Agree, the irony in his voice and reply was kind of giving his feelings away...



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Scenes 13 - 19 (15 mins)

 

 

Scene 13 ( 10.03 - 12.20 )

Martha interviews Rose (solicitor present), who tells her that her Dad was trying to find the man who raped her but she doesn't know who it is as she cannot remember, but in a  very distressed state, recounts the incident, where there were two men, one who injected her so she was unconscious. All she can remember is the man said "sweet dreams."

 

Scene 14 ( 12.21 - 12.46 )

Martha visits Tamsin in the dance studio, and asks her about Rose who has told Martha that she spoke to Tamsin about the rape incident at the time.

 

Scene 15 ( 12.47   - 13.19 )

Jack talks to Edward at the dance studio, telling him about Rose being raped all those years ago. Edward claims the first he heard about it was when Scott told him about "this vigilante thing" but he told him they should go straight to the police. He asks after Scott.

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Scene 16 ( 13.20 - 14.16 )

Martha asks Tamsin what she remembers about the incident. She said Rose was really distressed the next day and said she'd been touched, but that when she rang home to speak to her Mother, she told her Rose had been doing something about "stranger danger" at school so she put it down to that, and Kelly was in the room all night with Rose and said nothing had happened.

 

Scene 17 ( 14.17 -  15.15 )

Charlie talks to Kelly at the hospital, who tells her she snuck out the room that night to be with a guy from another dance team. Rose still does not know that she did.

 

Scene 18 ( 15.16 -  15.38 )

Jack and Martha still are at the dance school, Martha comments to Tamsin that she is surprised she didn't tell Jack and Charlie before about all this, she replies she didn't want to damage the rep of the school. Martha tells her that her daughter Daisy was absent from her dance class because she has a cold.

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Scene 19 ( 15.39  - 15.54 )

Once outside Martha asks Jack how it went with Edward, and Jack asks after Daisy.

JW: He's not the sort of person that I'd warm to, naturally.

MB: What do you mean?

JW: He's just a gob shite, isn't he? How's Daisy? I didn't know she was sick.

MB: No, is she hell..Any sign of a kiddy fiddler, do you know what I mean? Not on my doorstep, thank you very much.

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