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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 3 | SUNDAY 19 OCTOBER 2014

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Random Jane wrote:

Jack knows he's about to take him down for pedophilia and no one is going to be too concerned with any complaint a pedophile has to lodge against any police officer. 


 Exactly! 



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So these scenes are all about Jack arresting Edward Shaffer, and his and Marthas' subsequent interviews with him

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Jack is so pleased when he get to arrest Edward...

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Loved the interview between Jack and Edward. I was waiting for it all the time. Waited the explosion but I liked the tension and irony too in that interview room..

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Jack arrests Edward in the street, loudly, and repeating to Tamsin why he is being arrested. His way of being sure that everyone hears.. so that dance school is gone before they are able to get hard evidence and convict him. good job

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oh yes, Jack is pleased and definitely willing to let the world know.  And Edward is all about being defensive and misdirecting, that's not suspicious at all...

 



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Jack loves arresting him and for the first time Edward looks worried. He is quiet and has no smart remarks or come back now. He saves all that for the interview room. nasty nasty man.

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Sc35 - when Jack's goes and sits at his desk after they've been looking at the 'trophies'.....that is the moment when he decides that he's going to get Shaffer WHATEVER it takes....

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We are starting to see Jack's anxiety that Shaffer might get away with it - they've got Cleaving but Jack wants to make sure Shaffer will pay too

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Like it would help against sassy Jack.

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the tension in those interviews is extreme Rosie, rivetting viewing.

Again, they have to follow procedure they have to be appropriate, Martha has to agree to Jack withdrawing, it is what is unsaid by them all that we are left to imagine,

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agree about scene 35.  you can tell Jack is worried they won't be able to get Edward on what they have so far.  this is the moment I think in his mind he's thinking "I HAVE to get this guy. No matter what."



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fifi wrote:

Sc35 - when Jack's goes and sits at his desk after they've been looking at the 'trophies'.....that is the moment when he decides that he's going to get Shaffer WHATEVER it takes....


 yes, the emotions were on the surface and you can read the "that's it, I had enough" on his face..



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and yet how different is Jack's behavior from his previous cases.  He's not exploding, showing how he's itching to get Edward.  he's being very calculating...



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Have to agree with Martha's sentiments about Dr Cleaving.

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this moment...

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agree whimsy.... calculating not in a sly way, but internally deciding... and the beginning of his secrecy

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domino wrote:

this moment...

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 Almost like Mr. Burns when he says excellent but somehow very dark version of it. More like, I'm getting you, you bastard. But intense. You can see in this how much he want to catch the guys he was right about.



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any last thoughts on these scenes before we move on to the final climactic scenes of this episode?

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ok moving on then?

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agree Jozie, the intensity...

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Scenes 41 - 49 (20 mins)

Scene 41 ( 37.39 - 39.00 )

Martha comes off a phone call in her office and tells Jack that due to lack of hard evidence and the fact that Edward is about to make an official complaint, she has now got to bail him.

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Jack is angry and leaves the room.

JW: Why do I even fucking bother doing this fucking  bullshit job!

but  returns when Charlie has some info for them that a chain with a padlock has been pulled up from the canal.

JW: The weapon

CS: Well, it's a chain with a padlock attached to it only, unfortunately, because it's been sat in the water for however many hours, so there's no DNA.

JW: Fucking fantastic.

CS: What there are, though, are some grey, cotton fibres trapped in the links of the chain, so -

JW: The Shaffers have got grey towels.

CS: I have grey towels.

MB: No, he's right, they do. They use grey towels so the kids can have them. Look, I tell you what, get down to the towpath, extend the search area, Take a dip while you're there. Be careful. Don't drown yourself.

JW: Thanks, boss.

 

Scene 42 ( 39.01 - 39.40 )

Charlie catches up with Jack on the stairwell.

CS: Edwards's complaint is -

JW: I don't give a fuck about the complaint!

A.) The guy has been covering up the rape of an eight-year-old.

B.) The guy killed Scott Freeman.

C.) He is linked with a known paedophile, Dr Philip Cleaving.

D.) We're about to release him so he can work with kids.

CS: You are not the only one who is pissed off about this. I've been in the Freeman house with all the tears and all the sobbing and all the heartbreak that comes with it.

JW: I'm not letting him get away with this. I'm going to search the crime scene. I'll find something to link it to Scott Freeman.

CS: Call me, Sarge, if you need me.

 

Scene 43 ( 39.41- 40.03 )

Jack and uniformed officers search the crime scene. Jack begins looking through some rubbish in bin liners.

 

Scene 44 ( 40.04  - 40.21 )

Martha and Charlie sign out Edward at the front desk, whose parting words are "you will of course be hearing from my solicitors." Charlie asks Martha if his complaint will have legs, Martha responds that she hopes not, but that Jack is his own worst enemy and she's "slightly sick of babysitting."Charlie replies, "you and me both."

 

Scene 45 (  40.22 - 41.12 )

Back at the crime scene Jack finds a grey towel which he bags and after a brief moment of contemplation and hesitation, hides behind his back and tells the officers he is heading back to the station.

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Scene 46 ( 41.13  - 42.10 )

Jack drives in his car and arrives at the Shaffers. He sits and hesitates, but then hides the bagged towel inside his coat before heading to the bins, opening his jacket, lifting the bin lid, but is interrupted by Edward Shaffer who appears and asks him to leave him alone. Jack claims he is there to apologise.

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Scene 47 ( 42.11 - 42.48 )

Meanwhile back at HQ, Charlie reports to Martha that the search team at the dance studio found Edwards digital camera, the SD card shows Edward was at the crime scene and that he attacked Scott. Martha sends Charlie to go and arrest Edward.

 

Scene 48 ( 42.49  -  43.11 )

Charlie drives to the Shaffers' house, on the way she receives a radio call of a fatality at the Shaffer's address.

 

Scene 49 ( 43.12 -  end )

When Charlie arrives, she finds Jack over Edwards dead body, blood on his hands.

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CS: Jack? What the fuck happened? What the fuck are you doing here? Control from DC Steele, how we doing with the ambulance?

JW: He's dead.

CS: Control from DC Steele, how we doing with the ambulance?

JW: He's fucking dead.

CS: What happened? Jack?

 



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domino wrote:

agree whimsy.... calculating not in a sly way, but internally deciding... and the beginning of his secrecy


 yes. 



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There are a lot of scenes together here, but they all fit together from the moment Jack gets the go ahead to search for more evidence, to finding it, to hiding it, to planning to plant it...

His frustration boils over when Martha tells them they have to bail Edward... the irony being not just lack of evidence but because of Edwards complaint against Jack.

Relations are strained within the team again, Charlie tries to cool Jack down but he is off on his own trip and Martha is "slightly sick of babysitting." Charlie replies, "you and me both."

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I love Jack's little outburst..."Why do I even fucking bother doing this fucking bullshit job!" - but I love that just as he storms out charlie makes him turn straight round and come back in even more! And she is so bemused by him.

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