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Topic: JACK CHAT | SUSPECTS SERIES 2 EPISODE 4 | SUNDAY 2 NOVEMBER 2014

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goodnight Jozie.  Sweet #Jacksass dreams... wink



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whimsy I felt the opposite... Martha is like a ticking time bomb in this episode but i was not sure exactly how it would culminate

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They are entirely focussed on the case by now....any personal friction has been put to one side...

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when Tamsin's involvement was evidenced i felt sick to the pit of my stomach... as if it couldnt get much more hideous...

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** 2 mins left on these scenes!! **

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Tamsin seemed really dodgy to me at the start...but I agree - when she said that she would've killed him herself I actually felt quite sympathetic towards her. It really took me by suprise...

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onwards to the final scenes of this episode..and in fact this series..........

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...and when Justin said that they killed the first boy cos he kept crying for his mum.....

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Scenes 44 - 49 (20 mins)

 

Scene 44 ( 35.23  - 35.31  )

Martha runs into the office and tells Jack and Charlie she has an address where Tamsin might have Andre might be.

Scene 45 ( 35.32  - 37.03 )

Charlie and Jack drive to the given address, a group of garages and immediately spot the Shaffer van. Jack spots blood coming from one of the garages and finds Tamsin with slashed wrist, Jack tries to revive her asking where Andre is. Uniformed police arrive and Charlie tells them to get every garage door open to search for Andre. Charlie finds him under a stairwell in the adjacent block of flats and calls an ambulance.

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Scene 46 ( 37.04  - 38.53  )

Martha talks to Tamsin at the hospital who says she was doing what she was told, but she let him go, she denies ever assaulting a child and appeals to Martha for sympathy and understanding.

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TS: Have you ever really really loved someone so much that you'd do anything for them?

MB: Shut the fuck up. Don't appeal to me as a fucking woman. I'm a mother, all right? Those children have got to live with this. They're still alive. God, you make me sick.

TS: You don't know anything about me or Edward. Or you would understand.

MB: I understand that your husband was a paedophile and you made sure he had a ready supply of little boys and girls to rape and kill. Wow, you're a disgrace. Get better soon, because we're gonna be looking after you from now on, OK?

Scene 47 ( 38.54  - 39.41 )

Charlie overseas Jeff's release at the front desk. He asks what happens now, and what about his job. Charlie responds she has written to the cps about the burglary as sympathetically as she could, but that she doesn't see there is much she can do about his job.

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Scene 48 ( 39.42- 39.46 )

In the main office Martha tells Jack and Charlie the dead child at Justin's flat was identified as Arthur Kombo, Interpol think trafficked from Africa. Charlie asks after Andre, Martha replies he is physically ok but mentally he and Tracy are going to need a lot of support. Charlie says she wants to go to the pub and get "considerably drunk" Jack replies "yes!" but Martha tells him to come with her.

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Scene 49 (  39.47 - 42.21 )

On the rooftop Martha tells Jack to humour her with an apology and she knew what he did and planned and has had to pull in some favours to cover for his actions. She tells him he is a liar and informs him that he has to take an enforced 6 week holiday.

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Jack takes a moment after she leaves.

 

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MB: Do me a favour.

JW: Yeah.

MB: Apologise to me.

JW: What do you mean?

MB: Just show me what you look like when you're apologising. 'Sorry, boss,' something like that. It's a game. Just do it.

JW: Sorry, boss.

MB: Cos you weren't apologising, were you? When you went to Edward Shaffer's, and Justin was there to see that.

JW: Hang on, hang on. Hang on. l When I went to Edward Shaffer's, I said, 'Mr Shaffer, I want to apologise for the way I've behaved. I want to...'

MB: No. Hang on. YOU hang on, Jack. Don't try and hoodwink me, because I can see through it, because I know you, Jack. I've been watching you fuck it up! I mean, are you stupid?

JW: No, I'm not stupid.

MB: Let me describe a stupid cop to you. A stupid cop would be somebody who would take a piece of incriminating evidence and bung it into the bin of the prime suspect.

JW:  I didn't... Listen, I know it's been a fucking shit week for me, OK...

MB: Well, it's been a much shitter week for me.

JW: I thought I was doing what needed to be done.

MB: I've had to speak to the DPS, I've had to pull a few fucking favours, favours I was rather keeping for myself. God, you are standing right on the fucking edge and I've a bloody good mind to give you a shove instead of constantly holding your hand. So, HR have said to me that you have six weeks' holiday due. I suggest that you take them. Don't send me a postcard.

 

Scene 50 (  42.22 - end  )

Jack returns to the office visibly upset. When Charlie says they can finally go for a drink Jack replies no and "ask the boss" when she asks what is wrong. He grabs his coat and keys and leaves.

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the action really picks up here with Martha successfully getting Justin to talk, they now have a location....

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I really expected them to find Andre's body....when they first found Tamsin I couldn't get my head round what had happened

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(fifi that was so horrible..)

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same here, Jack was frantic, as was Charlie... it was information overload

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I cried through this whole scene. And cry with every subsequent re watch

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Love Martha's response to Tamsin in scene 46.  She was quite a piece of work.  

The ending.  WOW!  I honestly didn't see it coming.  As I said, when Martha told Charlie "we're only human", I thought for sure tensions were easing.  But when she told him to follower her and they went to the rooftop, I knew it was going to be bad...



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It was really frantic....very effective at getting the adrenalin pumping!

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Yeah....Martha telling Tamsin to 'shut the fuck up' was a lovely moment!

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I can honestly say, with all the twists and turns I thought they would find the boy dead.  It was a confusion for me for sure, the whole sequence.



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totally with you on scene 46 whimsy, note, i posted a non Jack screen cap!

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"Don't appeal to me as a fucking woman" best line ever

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Tamsin really was quite.....disturbing - her whole reaction....saying she was sorry, but she did it cos she really loved her husband...??!!?

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Domino, I've cried in every single episode of Suspects.  

When Charlie finds the poor boy huddled, my heart breaks.



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fifi wrote:

Tamsin really was quite.....disturbing - her whole reaction....saying she was sorry, but she did it cos she really loved her husband...??!!?


 I think she was psychotic.  She's spent years justifying his actions.  Her involvement.  



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Jack already looks like a lamb to the slaughter in scene 48.......... it is the moment he has been trying to avoid .... he knows he has overstepped the mark with the work and with Martha....

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Yeah....he so doesn't want this moment to happen....and he so knows what is coming

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